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#1 tholly

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 01:23 AM

So, I have to give a presentation on Radical Humanism using the movie Fight Club. Anyone have any good comments for me or any good web references?

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 09:41 PM

So, I have to give a presentation on Radical Humanism using the movie Fight Club. Anyone have any good comments for me or any good web references?


Well I was debating on writing an essay dealing with the Zen aspects and metaphors of Fight Club. You might want to look at the religious allegories throughout the film.
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 12:00 AM

Well I was debating on writing an essay dealing with the Zen aspects and metaphors of Fight Club. You might want to look at the religious allegories throughout the film.


Thanks for the idea. When I watch the film again, I'll have to keep an eye out for that.

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 10:24 AM

Thanks for the idea. When I watch the film again, I'll have to keep an eye out for that.


And philosophy too. Think Nietzsche :lol:.
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 10:45 AM

personally, I think all the philosophy and politics and religion in Fight Club are smoke and mirrors. To me all that stuff is the narrator's mind creating distractions because he can't deal with being in love with Marla.

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 10:58 AM

personally, I think all the philosophy and politics and religion in Fight Club are smoke and mirrors. To me all that stuff is the narrator's mind creating distractions because he can't deal with being in love with Marla.


I don't think his mental break comes because of Marla. She seems to accelerate an aspect of it, but it's fundamentally because he can't live in the world he's in. I would argue Fight Club is deeply philosophical and political. He creates a purely destructive superhuman-like alter ego as a defense mechanism to deal with the world he's in. "Maybe self-improvement isn't the answer. Maybe self-destruction is the answer." It's a highly ethical position to take. Since there is no way of living an authentic existence, we ought to destroy our existence. The exuberance he feels when Tyler Durden enters his life is the exuberance of being an authentic human being.

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 06:52 PM

I'm gonna do my first preparation viewing tonight and will watch out for all of this. I plan on watching it again later in the week to take detailed notes....this time is just a refresher as I haven't seen the movie in a while.

Thanks for the comments so far.....keep them coming.

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 03:10 PM

I'm gonna do my first preparation viewing tonight and will watch out for all of this. I plan on watching it again later in the week to take detailed notes....this time is just a refresher as I haven't seen the movie in a while.

Thanks for the comments so far.....keep them coming.


Are you going to post your essay (or presentation in done in another form)?

Fight Club is certainly a film I think about quite often. Whenever I'm flying or especially when having to get past someone (do I give them the crotch of the butt?)
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 12:47 AM

I actually don't have to do an essay or powerpoint or anything like that. I will be typing up some notes to use as talking points. Then, in class, I'll be showing a few clips from the film and then leading a class discussion on Radical Humanism as it relates to the film.

I'll post my talking points here once I get them typed up.....they are just handwritten currently.

I'm watching the Fincher commentary now and will be watching the film by itself one more time before my class on Wednesday.

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 04:07 AM

So, I have to give a presentation on Radical Humanism using the movie Fight Club. Anyone have any good comments for me or any good web references?


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Posted 12 April 2010 - 05:47 PM

Might not make the most sense out of the context of being in a class discussion, but here is my talking points notes. This is the type of class where you need to have a ton of material, but will probably only actually cover a small portion of it.

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Radical Humanism and Fight Club

Chapter 8 – Radical Humanism
- Ultimate reality of universe is spiritual, not material
- Subjectivist orientation → similar to interpretivist
- Individual creates the world in which he lives
o Focus on critique, focus on essentially alienated state of man
- Fichte → influenced through form of reality which experience is turned into reality, reflected back on humans, which leads them to be conscious of themselves and their actions
- Individual is trapped in the mode of existence he creates
- World is a product of individual consciousness
- External world creation separates man from his true being
- Individual consciousness → focal point for the understanding of the nature of the social world
- No absolute above man → state and religion are creations of man, not reflections of absolute spirit
- Individuals can create and change the society they live in
- Paradigm is influenced by:
o Solipsism
o French Existentialism
o Anarchistic Individualism
o Critical Theory
- Lukacsian Sociology → theory of revolution emphasizing the role of the proletariat and its class consciousness in the overthrow of capitalist society
- Reification → what productive things men create are divorced from men as objectified ‘things’
- Gramsci’s Sociology → capitalist power and domination rest not only in materially located means of coercion and oppression, but also within men’s consciousness
o Ruling class maintained through perpetual belief system, stressing the need for order, authority, & discipline; emasculating protest
- Reality does not exist on its own account, but in a historical relationship with the men who modify it
- The Frankfurt School → aim to reveal the nature of capitalist society for what it was
- Civilization rests upon the repression of man’s internal drives
- Surplus Suppression → constraint over and above that which is necessary to maintain civilization
- Advanced technology → force of liberation in its ability to eliminate material scarcity
- Technical production / distribution imposes itself on society
o Products and those they serve are molded to serve their own internal requirements
- Technology → produces one-dimensional society; a flattening out of difference and conflict; alternatives appear unrealistic; industrial system appears to have a logic of its own
- Affluence and false needs impede upon radical protest of order
- Consciousness molded and controlled by the media
- Welfare and warfare control the happy workforce through levels of consumption
- Capitalist society molds human consciousness to fit the requirements of social formulation
- Consciousness → internally generated, but influenced by objectification
- Anarchistic Individualism → total individual freedom; no internal or external regulation
- Primacy of individual existence; total rejection of universal laws governing social life
o Pursuit of own interests
o True human freedom → attained through release from all constraints
o Freedom for individual ego
o Removal of state and its trappings
o State → regulated against individual’s happiness
- French Existentialism → individual is actively involved in the creation of his world and not just an observer or reflection
- Nothingness is total freedom
o Man’s freedom is measured by his ability to perceive non-objects and look beyond pre-existing actuality
o When the outside is accepted, nothingness is reduced
o Instead of being free, we become what we are
o Incapable of being radically free and escaping the role
o To live in one’s role is self-deception
o Playing your condition in order to realize it
o Accept social position in detriment to true human potential
- The Paradigm
o Concern for freedom of human spirit
o Men are trapped by social organization that they created and maintain
o Want to set human’s free to facilitate growth and development of human potential
o Reality is socially created and sustained
- NOTES:
o Fight Club rules become new society
• Going against their initial purpose
o Rebellion acts as new ‘state’
o Overturn only through group; group structure acts as ‘state’

Chapter 9 – Anti-Organization Theory
- Fundamental opposition to functionalist paradigm
- Fundamental opposition to organization theory
- Organizations contribute to man’s alienation from his true being
- Objectification of mind, hindering man’s appreciation of totality
- Technology reinforces social organization and control
o Promotes, in capitalism, the interests of the dominant class
- Technology enslaves men into constant improvement, rather than being the tool to ease their burdens
- Technocracy seeks to define reality
- Gouldner calls for an overthrow of technocratic mode of consciousness and the establishment of more humanly oriented forms of life
- Work, rationality, science, and technology shape, channel, and control men’s consciousness
- Functionalist science is seen as creating, not solving, problems
- Scientific ethos has been used to conquer man’s environment and dominate man himself
o Man is seen as the prisoner of science
o Want more to return to living in harmony with nature
- Man-made notions and artifacts are objectified products of human consciousness
o Windmills, not power plants
o Craftsmanship, not work
o Zen, not instrumentality
- Abolition of scarcity leads to the attainment of man’s release from the domination of existing modes of social life
- Ideological mechanisms through which the work is habituated to roles, rules, language of workplace


David Fincher Commentary
- We are a by-product of the armor that we select to wear to let people know who we are….and that’s not just clothes and cars and hairstyles, also furniture you pick, etc.
- Mona Lisa is falling apart → two constants, entropy and chaos
- Recycling of history
- We’ve just had a near-life experience

Fight Club Viewing Plan
- 4:10 to 9:22
o Corporations running everything
o Boss known by his possessions, not his name; ie, cornflower blue tie
o Slave to the Ikea nesting instinct
o Named possessions
o What kind of dining set defines me as a person?
o Pills over a natural solution
o “I let go, lost in oblivion, dark and silent, and complete. I found freedom. Loosing all hope was freedom.”
- 19:10 to 21:50
o Waking up and not knowing where you are
o Life ending one moment at a time
o If you wake up at a different time, are you a different person?
o Single serving life, single serving friends
o Calculating human value via recall cost
- 25:23 to 31:30
o I had everything in that suitcase
o Home as a filing cabinet
o Stereo, wardrobe → I was getting close to being complete, and now it’s all gone
o Essential to our survival?
o Consumers; by-products of a lifestyle obsession
o Evolve, stop being perfect
o The things you own end up owning you
- 40:35 to 45:25
o We were not alone
o Angry or depressed → clean my condo
o New condo, haggle insurance company, flaming pile of stuff
o Icon in cornflower blue
o Tyler and I made it visible, gave it a name
o Calvin Klein or Tommy Hilfiger tell you how to look
o Self-improvement is masturbation
- 54:45 to 1:04:25
o Give up condo life and worldly possessions
o Destroy property, realign perception
o Reject civilization and personal possession
o That condo was my life
o Wasn’t just a bunch of stuff that got destroyed, it was me
o Somebody loved it for one day, then tossed it
o It’s only after we’ve lost everything that we’re free to do anything
o You’re one step closer to being alive
- 1:10:01 to 1:11:16
o Potential squandered
o Slaves of white collars
o Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, getting us to buy shit we don’t need
o Great war → spiritual war, Great Depression → our lives
o TV lied to us our whole lives
- 1:21:25 to 1:24:45
o Human sacrifice
o What did you want to be?
o Let that which truly does not matter slide
o You’re not your job, you’re not how much money you have in the bank, you’re not the car you drive, you’re not the contents of your wallet
- 1:30:25 to 1:31:00
o You are not special. You are not beautiful or unique snowflakes. You are the same decaying organic matter as everything else
- 1:38:05 to 1:41:17
o This does not belong to us; we are not special
o Forget what you think you know
o If you were to die right now, how would you feel about your life?
o Hitting bottom is not a weekend retreat
o Stop trying to control everything and just let go
o We just had a near-life experience
- 1:45:14 to 1:47:50
o Get rid of the evidence, this body
o This is a person
o He is Bob
o He has a name, Robert Paulson
o In death, a member has a name

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Laserdisc: 1(1st) 1(2nd) 1A 2A 4 6 6A 7 8A 9 10A 16A 19 21 23 25A 27 28 33 36 37 40A 52A 55 57 60 66A 68 69 72A 73 74 77 78A 79 83 98A 100 100A 105 107 108A 113 114 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 124A 125 127 129 131A 132A 136 138 139A 147 148 149 150 152 156 159 168 171 173 175 176 177 178 182 183 184 192 195 198 203 204 207 207 209 216 220 227 229 230 231 233 235 238 247 249 256 257 259 262 276 288 290 296 298 304 313 323 325 327 335 337 338 343 347 349 350 355 356 358 362 384, The Addams Family, I Love Lucy, Tanner '88 Vol. 1, 2, & 3, Tunes Of Glory/The Horse's Mouth, François Truffaut: 25 Years, 25 Films, Red Balloon/White Mane

 

VHS: 3, 5, The 39 Steps, Gimme Shelter, The Lady Vanishes

 

BetaMax:  5

 

CD-ROM:  Criterion Goes To The Movies Buyer's Guide, This Is Spinal Tap

 

On Order:  1000BR


#12 masterofoneinchpunch

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 05:45 PM

Did you listen to the group commentary: Director David Fincher and actors Brad Pitt, Edward Norton, and Helena Bonham-Carter? I enjoyed it, though I do wonder how much it would have helped you.
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My Criterion Collection (408; I Own and Have Watched):
1-16, 18, 19, 20, 21(2nd), 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51(1st & 2nd), 52, 52, 53, 53, 55, 56, 57, 58, 61, 62, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86. 87, 88, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 105, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 121, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 143, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151(1st), 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 164, 165, 167, 168, 169, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 177, 180, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 187, 188, 189, 190, 193, 194, 195, 196, 197, 198, 199, 201, 202, 204, 205, 206, 208, 209, 210, 211, 212, 213, 214, 216, 217, 218, 219, 220, 221, 222, 224, 226, 227, 231, 232, 233, 234, 235, 237, 239, 239, 240, 241, 242, 243, 244, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 250, 251, 252, 253, 254, 255, 256, 260, 263, 266, 267, 268, 271, 273, 274, 275, 276, 277, 280, 281, 282, 283, 284, 285, 286, 288, 289, 290, 291, 292, 293, 294, 297, 298, 300(2D), 301, 302, 304, 305, 306, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312, 313, 314, 315, 316, 317, 318, 319, 320, 321, 322, 323, 324, 325, 326, 327, 328, 329, 330, 331, 332, 335, 336, 338, 339, 340, 341, 342, 343, 344, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 351, 352, 353, 354, 357, 358, 359, 362, 363, 364, 365, 366, 367, 368, 369, 370, 371, 372, 373, 374, 375, 376, 378, 379, 380, 383, 385, 386, 387, 388, 391, 392, 393, 394, 395, 396, 397, 398, 399, 402, 404, 405, 408, 409, 410, 412, 413, 414, 415, 416, 417, 418, 419, 420, 421, 422, 424, 425, 427, 428, 429, 430, 431, 432, 433, 434, 435, 437, 439, 441, 445, 446, 447, 448, 451, 453, 455, 456, 457, 459, 460, 461, 462, 465, 470, 475, 476, 478, 481, 482, 487, 490, 497, 498, 499, 500, 501, 503, 505, 512, 524, 525, 526, 528, 529, 530, 531, 539, 540, 543, 556, 565, 572, 578, 579, 580, 586, 596, 650, 664, 677

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 06:35 PM

Did you listen to the group commentary: Director David Fincher and actors Brad Pitt, Edward Norton, and Helena Bonham-Carter? I enjoyed it, though I do wonder how much it would have helped you.


Just the Fincher by himself - not too helpful, but it wasn't bad. Didn't listen to the others.

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Criterion: (1) ([(2) (52) (53) 116]) (2 w/ resto.) (2) 2 ([(3) 56 (135) (136) (137)]) (3) (4) (5) [5 185 186 187 188] (5) (6) 6 7 (8) (9) (10) (11) 11 [(11) 139 237 321] (12) (13) ([14 15 16]) (14) (15) (16) (17) 17 (18) (19) (20) (21) 22 (23) (24) (25) (26) (27) (28) 29 (30) 30 [31 32 43 46] 33 34 (35) (36) 36 (37) (37LC) 38 39 40 [41 82 213] 42 (44) 45 46 (47) (47v2) (48) (49) 50 ([(51) (51.1) 51.2 51.3]) (52) (53) [52 53] (54) (55) (57) 57 (58) 59 60 61 62 63 (64) (64) 65 ([(66) (67) (68) (69)]) 70 71 72 (73) (74) 75 76 77 (78) (79) 80 (81) (83) 84 (85) [86 87 88] 89 90 91 92 (93) 94 (95) 96 97 (98) 99 100 101 (102) 103 104 105 (106) (107) 108 (109) (110) (111) (112) (112) 113 (114) (115) (116) (117) (118) (119) (120) (121) 122 [123 361] [124 125 126 127 128] (129) 130 131 132 133 134 (136) (137) (138) 140 (141) 142 (143) 144 145 146 147 149 (150) 151 152 (153) (155) (156) 157 161 163 (164) 165 166 [167 168 169] (171) (173) 174 175 176 178 [179 180 181] (182) (189) (190) (193) (196) 197 (200) 201 [203 204 205 206] [208 209 210 211 212] 216 (217) (218) 219 (221) (222) 223 (225) 226 (227) 228 229 233 (234) (235) (238) 240 [241 242 243 244] (245) 246 247 248 249 [250 251 252 253 254 255 256] 259 260 [261 262 263 264] (265) (266) 269 (271) 272 (274) (276) 277 (278) (281) [282 283 284 285] (287) (287R) 288 289 (290) 291 293 296 (297) 299 300.1 300.2 301 (304) 305 (306) 308 309 [310, 311, 312, 313] (314) (316) (317) (318) 319 320 322 (323) (325) [327 328 329 330] 332 (333) 334 (335) 336 340 [342 343 344 345 346 347 348] 349 351 352 356 (357) 358 359 361 362 [364 365 366 367 368] [369 370 371 372 373] 374 380 381 (385) 386 (388) 390 [392 393 394 395] (396) 397 399 (402) 404 407 408 411 412 414 [418 73 74 419 420] (421) (424) 425 428 432 433 435 437 (439) (441) 442 446 (447) 449 452 (453) 454 455 456 (457) 458 459 460 (463)466 467 468 469 470 [471 472 473 474] 475 476 477 (478) 479 480 481 482 (484) 487 (488) 491 494 495 [497 498 499 500] 506 [508 509 510 511] 515 [524 525 526] [528 529 530 531] 532 541 [544 545 546 547 548 549 550] 560 (572) 695 (759) 760

 

Blu-Ray: [3 56 646 696] 4 5 11 [14 15 16] 17 19 (37LC) 48 [52 53] 54 62 (64) 65 70 93 99 [99 168 624 711] (112) 157 ([167 168 169]) [167 168 169] 197 200 [203 204 205 206] (218) 235 [250 251 252 253 254 255 256] 267 300 (304) [326 485 807] 381 (385) (408) 411 (421) 422 437 445 450 (453) 458 462 476 (478) [479 599 762] 483 488 489 493 496 501 504 512 514 516 [517 518 184] 521 522 533 535 539 540 541 542 [544 545 546 547 548 549 550] 551 553 555 562 (572) 574 578 579 582 586 [587 588 589 590] 594 595 [603 76 604 605 606] 607 610 613 616 625 630 [631 632 633 634] [639 640 641 642] 644 645 647 649 654 655 656 663 666 [672 673 674 675] 676 677 695 [729 730 731 110 111 112 439] [734 735] 737 748 [751 752] (759) 760 776 [782 783 784 785] [790 791] 792 794 [796 797] 800 808 [813 814 815 816] 820 821 822 826 828 837 [551 666 838BR] [841] 845 846 [856 857 858 859] 860 872 880 [881 882 883 884] 888 896 899 [900] 909 923 924 928 [930 109 931 932 933 934 935] 942 946 948 951 952 958 [971 972] 983 [990 991 992] IBCBR

 

Dual Format:  5 29 47 95 115 (116) 152 156 (190) 217 278 281 314 396 408 [679] 680 681 682 683 [684 685 686 687 688 689 690] 691 692 693 694 (696) (697) 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 [713 714 715 716 717 718 719] (720) 721 722 723 724 725 [873 874 875 876 877 878 879]

 

Eclipse: 1 2 3 4 5 (6) 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46

 

Other: (2012 99 Reasons Promo DVD), (2013 99 Reasons Promo DVD), (Beastie Boys Intergalactic DVD Single), Paddle to the Sea, The Red Balloon, White Mane, Criterion Designs Book, Criterion Postcards Volume 1, Criterion Postcards Volume 2

 

Laserdisc: 1(1st) 1(2nd) 1A 2A 4 6 6A 7 8A 9 10A 16A 19 21 23 25A 27 28 33 36 37 40A 52A 55 57 60 66A 68 69 72A 73 74 77 78A 79 83 98A 100 100A 105 107 108A 113 114 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 124A 125 127 129 131A 132A 136 138 139A 147 148 149 150 152 156 159 168 171 173 175 176 177 178 182 183 184 192 195 198 203 204 207 207 209 216 220 227 229 230 231 233 235 238 247 249 256 257 259 262 276 288 290 296 298 304 313 323 325 327 335 337 338 343 347 349 350 355 356 358 362 384, The Addams Family, I Love Lucy, Tanner '88 Vol. 1, 2, & 3, Tunes Of Glory/The Horse's Mouth, François Truffaut: 25 Years, 25 Films, Red Balloon/White Mane

 

VHS: 3, 5, The 39 Steps, Gimme Shelter, The Lady Vanishes

 

BetaMax:  5

 

CD-ROM:  Criterion Goes To The Movies Buyer's Guide, This Is Spinal Tap

 

On Order:  1000BR


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Posted 22 April 2010 - 10:36 AM

Just the Fincher by himself - not too helpful, but it wasn't bad. Didn't listen to the others.


It is actually quite fun. Helena Bonham-Carter is actually cut in, but the rest are together. Here is the summation: Brad Pitt actually knows more than you think he would. Edward Norton is actually the opposite. He gets corrected several times through the commentary. David Fincher sometimes seems to act as a mediator.
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1-16, 18, 19, 20, 21(2nd), 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51(1st & 2nd), 52, 52, 53, 53, 55, 56, 57, 58, 61, 62, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86. 87, 88, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 105, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 121, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 143, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151(1st), 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 164, 165, 167, 168, 169, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 177, 180, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 187, 188, 189, 190, 193, 194, 195, 196, 197, 198, 199, 201, 202, 204, 205, 206, 208, 209, 210, 211, 212, 213, 214, 216, 217, 218, 219, 220, 221, 222, 224, 226, 227, 231, 232, 233, 234, 235, 237, 239, 239, 240, 241, 242, 243, 244, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 250, 251, 252, 253, 254, 255, 256, 260, 263, 266, 267, 268, 271, 273, 274, 275, 276, 277, 280, 281, 282, 283, 284, 285, 286, 288, 289, 290, 291, 292, 293, 294, 297, 298, 300(2D), 301, 302, 304, 305, 306, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312, 313, 314, 315, 316, 317, 318, 319, 320, 321, 322, 323, 324, 325, 326, 327, 328, 329, 330, 331, 332, 335, 336, 338, 339, 340, 341, 342, 343, 344, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 351, 352, 353, 354, 357, 358, 359, 362, 363, 364, 365, 366, 367, 368, 369, 370, 371, 372, 373, 374, 375, 376, 378, 379, 380, 383, 385, 386, 387, 388, 391, 392, 393, 394, 395, 396, 397, 398, 399, 402, 404, 405, 408, 409, 410, 412, 413, 414, 415, 416, 417, 418, 419, 420, 421, 422, 424, 425, 427, 428, 429, 430, 431, 432, 433, 434, 435, 437, 439, 441, 445, 446, 447, 448, 451, 453, 455, 456, 457, 459, 460, 461, 462, 465, 470, 475, 476, 478, 481, 482, 487, 490, 497, 498, 499, 500, 501, 503, 505, 512, 524, 525, 526, 528, 529, 530, 531, 539, 540, 543, 556, 565, 572, 578, 579, 580, 586, 596, 650, 664, 677

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